Hoping to at least get an update on those brakevans during that upcoming livestream. Origins James I see for either December or early 2021.

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On a separate note, the auction for the Hornby Murdoch model just ended a few minutes. The final price is nearly 3,000 USD, plus shipping :

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Hornby-THOMAS-THE-TANK-AND-FRIENDS-R9684-MURDOCH-Locomotive-DCC-Ready/264904270320?hash=item3dad8661f0:g:nD0AAOSwZbhfjHTf

Talk about demand interest...

A sample size of one is not indicative of demand. Given that model railroading has an expense barrier, this seems like it is more indicative of a tiny subset of enthusiasts with enough money to spend whatever they like to complete their roster. 'Arry and Bert prove that when you get down to the level that only completionists are buying the product, it is no longer viable for the manufacturer to produce. Do you really think that Hornby would pull out of the Thomas market if it was making them money hand over fist? They weren't even making unique tooling for their locomotives and it wasn't enough money for them to continue.

At the end of the day, this is a case study of which we need multiple case studies to indicate larger demand.

It is fair to state that one sample size is not indicative of demand. I stand corrected there. However, at this point, with over twenty engines to choose from in the HO line, I do believe that every engine Bachmann considers for the future should be based on requests from older fans, as we are the ones who are interested in purchasing every engine.

It really says a lot when the last time we got an large engine with a complex side rod configuration was in 2006 (Spencer). That's why I brought up Murdoch, as Hiro (who has made more appearances) does not seem like a realistic option (as there is unfortunately no Bachmann UK basis for him), and it would be much too expensive to make one entirely from scratch these days.

Additionally, I am trying to speak out for fans who unfortunately missed out on purchasing a Hornby Murdoch, just as I was with Stepney. For years, fans have asked me through YouTube, Instagram, and Twitter where I purchased my Murdoch & Stepney models, and if I will ever sell them. When stating no, I feel sorry for them.

With the Thomas television series going through a major revamp, the new CGI characters are going to be considered as outdated characters in due time too. Daisy will not be out until 2021, after all, which means that the next HO engine with a new tooling will not be out before 2022 at the earliest; we will be well into the new revamp at that point.

With all of this stated, I do agree that the announcements for next February will most likely consist of existing toolings, due to the ongoing pandemic. In a perfect world, an HO Stepney would be announced, but the only new tooling that I really expect is an N Scale Toby. Hopefully, we will see some nice new HO rolling stock announced at the very least.

Thing is I doubt Bachmann would even go down the route Hornby used? Which is reusing existing tooling? And it's more a equal part fan demand and what will kids/their parents actually buy, bit of an exception to the NG range of course, and in part the character's presence. It's why Stepney is a very very unlikely to happen model truth be told, cause after Daisy was announced somehow the connection was made that fan demand was the major factor, and of course its A major factor but wouldn't say its the main. Cause like Daisy was not only brought back into the series, she got a lot of attention and episodes to her, so she also was hitting the presence aspect, which in turn is an influence on the kids who want Bachmann models.

I'm sorry I just need to address this, N scale is not remotely 009, just needed to get that out cause the 2 are very different, one is N scale one and the other is narrow gauge. And I have to object on any semblance that the NG range isn't as popular as the normal HO(Really OO but that's been said many times anyway) range, cause the NG range is damn near constantly sold out with the exception of the reused Peco stock cause it's the same tooling you can get for like 1/3 the price without the SR lettering and livery. And as for the normal range reaching its limits? No? Hornby gave up the UK license cause they weren't making money, and it's kinda obvious why they weren't cause all the engines bar a couple were made using now decades old tooling and most of them were still tender drive until the end, that coupled with the fact they being sold at around the same price as many of their new tooled counterparts. Henry for instance, why get Henry when a brand new Black 5 is about the same price? AT least in terms of more experienced modelers. And the fact Hornby was in a really bad financial state.
As for their announcements for 2021, I expect some sort of new N scale release, new engine ideally, a smaller one of course so likely Toby or Diesel(hopefully), LS who knows, main range probably rolling stock recolors or a new Mainline tooling being introduced at the most, maybe a new engine but I don't expect it, NG? Harder to pin point, if Peter Sam is far enough along then we may see the likes of Sir Handel being announced and probably more new rolling stock.

Well only for rebuilding it into Edward Thomas, Peter Sam kept his Geisel after all

Quote from: Chaz on October 18, 2020, 12:46:21 AM
I'm honestly a little surprised no one made a thread for the Bachmann Peter Sam until now, especially since the hype for him is on the same level as Daisy.

I think it goes without saying, but if Rusty is anything to go off of Peter Sam will likely be based on his CG render including his basis' proportions.  Unlike Rusty, I don't think this would be a bad thing for Peter Sam as I feel he has one of the best renders in the CGI series.

I think the rear style will most likely be CGI based too but I don't see that as being a dealbreaker for most people.  I could see Peter Sam easily being another top seller for Bachmann.

Aye, I've said it hundreds of times but Rusty's model being inaccurate to Midlander and instead being a hodge-podge of Midlander's dimensions with the CGI model's proportions was due to a number of reasons. Peter Sam will almost certainly follow the principle of Skarloey and Rheneas, being 90% accurate to the prototype with a few things that aren't detrimental being off and being replaceable. The only major thing I see happening that won't be accurate and is unavoidable is the solid wall under his tanks. Cause A) CGI model has it, and the previous models, and B) much for the same reason as the S4 model and LS model had it, to hide the motor and mechanism. Now how bad this wall will be and how much of a pain in the ass it'll be for conversions to ET/Corris 4 and RWS Peter Sam of course remains to be seen but It'll probably be a major one going off the CGI model. But really the only other major detail I expect to be missing is the valve gear and eccentrics, given the CGI Model doesn't even have it, so hoping NP come through with an etched kit after the model is released. But yeah, sum up, expect a mix of CGI and Edward Thomas in current condition.

I definitely agree with adding NG resin buildings to the line, they would be immensely popular with 009 modelers especially if priced well.

Diesel 10 and lady are pretty out of the question, not only cause the claw would breach standards and cost a fortune realistically, there is very little demand for characters that Mattel themselves would rather be forgotten, especially lady.
Personally, I'd rather see a N scale Diesel next...granted not for N scale reasons but still.

I mean, it's accurate to British N scale

Honestly, I'd rather have diesel...granted my purposes are for 009 and having a cheaper outside framed, coupled chassis would be ideal. Hell, if only for NG parts use, the Diesel stuff would probably sell out somewhat quickly if priced well.

Quote from: Zekeism on July 18, 2020, 02:22:02 PM
Prediction, one of the following:
Pink undercoat James (Tickled Pink)
Tar covered James (Dirty Objects)
Coal covered James (Calling All Engines)
Blue James (An Engine of Many Colours)
Green James (An Engine of Many Colours)
Silver James (An Engine of Many Colours)
Brown James (An Engine of Many Colours)
Purple James (An Engine of Many Colours)
Yellow James (An Engine of Many Colours)
Orange James (An Engine of Many Colours)

Bu-But why

I wasn't expecting any new announcements, but I wasn't expecting at least the bare minimum update wise. Status of the N scale line's release, when we may see samples of Daisy and PS, that sort of thing. And the funniest part is that we honestly got more of a reveal out of the twitter page, who somehow pre-one upped Bachmann's actual show reveals, and that twitter stuff was heavily implied to just be a hint at what would be revealed on the stream...it really wasn't.

Right, Bachmann's announcements are up and:
Origin James aka Black James. Wheels aren't painted, but it's probably just a Sample thrown together so not surprising.
And
Wait, THATS IT?!
THEY HYPED US UP AND PRACTICALLY REVEALED THE 2 ITEMS THEY HAD THE DAY BEFORE?!
Well there's always the N gauge line...Nothing. NOTHING?! NOT EVEN AN UPDATE.
Well maybe there's an update on LS Diesel, besides the Sample we got the other day...NOPE.

Well Black James is confirmed at least, though I'm hoping for some bigger fish tomorrow

Honestly I sort of hope for a middle ground sort, where the red is based on Brake 5, and they did at one point have a 3d model of it in the show. The other is for the blue to be based entirely on Brake 6, ex-corris van, but with an added duckett. Wouldn't really be accurate to when it had one under the Corris, those took up the entire panel they were attached too

Having just looked it up, it isnt