Next up (that we know of) Large Scale DCC Thomas and Percy and the new HO wagons.

My question is where has Glynn been the whole time? He can't still be in that siding on the branchline as that was the only time he was seen and it was once very early on in the history of sodor. But me being an American I'd rather they bring back Hank or even put Sam in the series than bringing new characters into it (I consider Glynn new seeing as he was seen only for a few seconds at the end of the adventure begins). But I'd definitely like to see a Bachmann Sam. As unlikely as it would be he gets added I'd still like to see him. Aswell as the Flying Scotsman becoming a Bachmann product. Scotsman will supposedly be returning in the series soon and I'd like to see if Bachmann can somehow get his deflectors to slide forward at a certain speed as he is only seen with them out when he's going fast or about to. But people would complain that it's just Bachmann trying to get more money by adding more gimmicks. It'd still be interesting to see though, and it is possible before you say it's not.

Hector might be too tall. He was bigger than the engines in the series so that'd probably be an issue too. As much as I'd like to see him it doesn't seem likely.

Yes please don't ruin it for people, emails are how we found out plenty of things. Also because this person is posting such things wouldn't it raise an alarm that it's fake. They're not agreeing to their terms. Kinda raises a red flag to me.

Quote from: BassTbone on July 18, 2016, 11:15:36 AM
Retailers have direct connections about release dates with the manufacturer.

Yes however if Bachmann hasn't put a release date on their site what makes you think they're gonna give it to other companies to put on theirs. Besides the direct connection is "Hey I'll buy a hundred of these what's the discount?". I wouldn't trust just looking at a site. Especially since it says estimated. Or if Bachmann is telling them it's probably more like "well unless we hit a bunch of snags this should be the latest. I personally don't trust the site. Like toad, every site said he would come out by a certain time but he came out months before. Don't trust the websites as they have been wrong before. Until Bachmann themselves say it don't get your hopes up. These websites keep changing. I'm pretty sure they're guessing as much as we are. I would only trust big name companies and that's not even totally true, they've been wrong as well. So I wouldn't really trust anyone but Bachmann. Unfortunately right now Oliver is the only one we don't know about.

Quote from: Sparks on July 17, 2016, 10:28:49 PM
Problem is you're talking about a hypothetical situation that didn't happened...  

You'd be surprised

Quote from: BassTbone on July 17, 2016, 11:13:35 PM
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFCDU&P=7

Set for October

That is guessing as much as we are, it even says estimated. So unless Bachmann themselves comes out and says here's the release date everything is speculation, an estimate, no one is sure of when he's coming. He could come out tomorrow or in another year, we don't know. Unfortunately neither do these people. So I wouldn't exactly trust them. But I'm pretty sure he'll pop out of the blue like toad. So it's anyone's guess.

Quote from: UPTODAY on July 17, 2016, 03:08:27 PM
chill out dudes!!!!!!!!you are going to have a heart attack over this bachmann stuff!!!
UPTODAY

I'm sorry but some people will take you seriously. Then we have chaos as those of us who realize you're joking try to calm down the people who didn't. So if you make a joke make sure that if someone takes it literally it doesn't create worry and panic because people fear the fact that something they've waited for will never get delivered. Just know for next time so the rest of us don't have to quickly correct it or deal with the chaos.

Quote from: TTTEfan1992 on July 16, 2016, 12:47:01 PM
Wait! What?! Bachmann Rosie is already revealed?

Announced. But Bachmann makes the engine that she's based off.

I have a list of official differences between the real thing and the tv model.

Rosie has both her whistle and connecting rods in different positions compared to her prototype:


Rosie's whistle is positioned behind her rear dome whilst her prototype has its whistle positioned on the right side of the middle dome.

Rosie's connecting rods are attached to her middle driving wheels whereas her prototype has its connecting rods attached to the rear driving wheels.

Her funnel is also taller than her basis.


I also think that her boiler is larger and there is a plate right in front of the smoke box that wouldn't be on Rosie. I also see the the cap above her cab is taller than the real thing. I would post pictures but they're too large. Anyways this means that Bachmann would pretty much have to remold most of her so the likely hood she would take less time than Oliver due to the fact she has her basis made by Bachmann is very slim. Oh and like I said Bachmann is not like Hornby who stick a face on an existing train and call it Edward. This is why I think they're just gonna pull the same thing they did with toad and just pull him out of the blue in that are "green for glory" as Mr. Stone once said. I hope this helps you realize how different companies can be and also how much work goes into a single Bachmann engine even if there is a very similar engine already being made.

Quote from: UPTODAY on July 15, 2016, 11:26:42 PM
Bachmann is only making TWO Oliver models and Im buying both of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hahahahahahahahah!!!!!
UPTODAY

I highly doubt that and even if you're kidding I wish you would stop as it is very annoying to have a serious question or concern and see you come in only to do nothing to help anyone. If you could please stop joking around and either ask serious questions or help people with various thing than that'd be great. In fact if you did anything with your comment you just freaked a bunch of people out because that didn't take that as a joke. As well to everyone who believed him, don't. He is just trying to joke around and do nothing to help anybody on this form. Please just ignore him if he's responding to you as he will only cause confusion and delay (that's how you make a helpful joke).

Quote from: sodorlad on July 16, 2016, 04:31:47 AM
I can't help but think all the speculation would end if Bachmann just made a statement on the matter. At the very least it's good customer service.

EDIT: It is worth nothing that Bachmann are manufacturing USA dock tank engines (Rosie's prototype) and these are selling exclusively(?)  through Model Rail magazine. I imagine that given Toad was recycled tooling, Rosie will use elements of the dock tank.. This may explain why she's arriving sooner.

Well for a period of time Bachmann made 14xxs. Granted they were large scale but still. And besides when it comes to engines they especially like atleast make it as close to the TV engine as possible. It's very rare they ever use an existing model for the T&F line. They only did with the narrow gauge cars and Toad because they're very nearly exactly the same. It's Hornby's job to take an existing model and stick a face on it. Bachmann likes to do things properly. That's what I like about Bachmann, they're not lazy.

I mean we're not really complaining, a few are, but at this point we're more trying to figure out why in the world Rosie has a release date but not Oliver. I personally think it'll be like road who came out of nowhere. I haven't seen people actually complain for a while. But you can also see why we're a bit annoyed that the thing that everyone wants and that we were told about long before new products is the thing we know less about than things people care less about and were announced recently. Now yes that was more of a complain I do think they're just pulling the same thing they did with toad. But if you would please not complain about people who are trying to solve a mystery of what's going on with a highly desired product and focus on the people who don't know what they're talking about. I'm sorry for sounding rude but I don't want to sit here and be criticized because I'm trying to figure out what's going on with a product many people, myself included, want more than a lot of others right now.

Quote from: Shawn on July 15, 2016, 03:45:11 AM
I feel like I need to post this in multiple threads.


Bachmann obviously has a process.  It's nothing personal against the fans that Oliver isn't released yet.  Allow me to speculate about what goes into making a Thomas model.

1-Some suits around a table come up with some products they'd like to introduce.
2-They get a license from the rights holders, (who probably had a say in who was picked)
3-They go into the design stage.  Blueprints, C.A.D. and the like.
4The designers run it by some suits, who run it by Mattel.
5-It goes through a second draft
6-Repeat step 4
7-One the design is decided on, they prototype it. First, second, third, fourth.
8-Once the long process of prototyping is complete, they will do an engineering sample, to test out the manufacturing process.
9-Along the way, they have to get approval after approval from HiT and Bachmann executives.  They even have to get FCC approval, that it will not interfere with radios ETC.
10-They have to design an insert for the packaging.
11- They have to send instructions to the factory in China, manufacture one, send it to PA, have it approved by all the people, take a picture, and giv the ok to produce more.
12-The factory has to make a batch, test, quality control, package, pick and pack, stick in container, ship it to PA.
13-They then distribute it to stores for us to buy.

It is not a wham-bam-thank-you-mam process. It takes a tonne of hard work and time.  I doubt they are standing around. That is also why they have to be choosy about what products get produced.

It's probably astronomically expensive too.

I'm done hearing complaints about how long it is taking. Seriously.

At this point we're only complaining about the fact that other things that were announced a few months ago are given release dates yet we know nothing but the price tag for a product that was announced over a year ago. We're not complaining about the time just that other things have taken priority over something we were told over a year ago.

Quote from: Shawn on July 15, 2016, 03:41:37 AM
Bachmann obviously has a process.  It's nothing personal against the fans that Oliver isn't released yet.  Allow me to speculate about what goes into making a Thomas model.

1-Some suits around a table come up with some products they'd like to introduce.
2-They get a license from the rights holders, (who probably had a say in who was picked)
3-They go into the design stage.  Blueprints, C.A.D. and the like.
4The designers run it by some suits, who run it by Mattel.
5-It goes through a second draft
6-Repeat step 4
7-One the design is decided on, they prototype it. First, second, third, fourth.
8-Once the long process of prototyping is complete, they will do an engineering sample, to test out the manufacturing process.
9-Along the way, they have to get approval after approval from HiT and Bachmann executives.  They even have to get FCC approval, that it will not interfere with radios ETC.
10-They have to design an insert for the packaging.
11- They have to send instructions to the factory in China, manufacture one, send it to PA, have it approved by all the people, take a picture, and giv the ok to produce more.
12-The factory has to make a batch, test, quality control, package, pick and pack, stick in container, ship it to PA.
13-They then distribute it to stores for us to buy.

It is not a wham-bam-thank-you-mam process. It takes a tonne of hard work and time.  I doubt they are standing around. That is also why they have to be choosy about what products get produced.

It's probably astronomically expensive too.

I'm done hearing complaints about how long it is taking. Seriously.

Yes granted that's true it still doesn't make sense that a product that was announced this year is coming out before a product announced over a year. We never said it was a simple process just that Oliver should take priority over other things because he was announced over a year ago yet things that were announced only a few months ago are being released. We're also trying to figure out why this is the case. Again, we never said it was a simple process or it should've been released very shortly after announcement just that he should be out before products that were only announced a few months ago. We understand the process just not why he's not taking priority over others because if he did take priority he would be released before Rosie and such. We never said it was a quick and simple process just that he should take priority and we're trying to figure out why we have release dates for things that are coming out soon but no more than a price for Oliver.

Also since rumor has it Flying Scotsman will be in the series more than TGR. Who doesn't love the Flying Scotsman. I'm hopeful that we'll see him sometime in the Bachmann line. I'd like to see how they deal with two tenders. Besides he'd just be a retooling of Gordon, it is feasible that they would. Just another idea for my favorite model railroading company.