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mickeykelley

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« on: May 23, 2014, 11:48:23 AM »

As a matter of curiosity, has anyone ever done a list of the Spectrum releases and approx. time frame?

For example, as I understand it the 2 truck Shay was their first in 199???

Personally, I have this Shay, original Climax (being sold for the later Climax), the 440 and the 280 Connie.  Would love to see the list and time frames?  Personally, I just love these for their detail and performance.  For me it all started with my son's original Big Hauler back in the mid 90's.  He grew up and lost interest, but I stayed attached.  I will have to admit that when running outside from a 20 foot distance, lots of the detail of the Spectrum is lost to me, but when they roll by close it comes back.
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2014, 03:22:10 PM »

I have that history, but will be away from my databases for a while.  If I do not respond in ten days please feel free to remind me.  Wade Colyer may also have it and could possibly provde it sooner.
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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2014, 11:20:07 PM »

It's not a rush so whenever you get back.
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2014, 12:05:57 PM »

HiMickey, and all

 Remember what I am showing you is for your personal use only, and for the use of members of the forum. I have copyrighted my databases, and I would vry much appreciate it if you would not retransmit it to any other forum or provide it to anyone else outside the forum.

Remember not all 1:20.3 items are Spectrum, and some feel that some spectrum items are not 1:20.3.     What I have provided is what Bachmann Trains says it is.

Hopefully I did not miss any.  Let me know

Sorry about the way the info is displayed moving from a database to a print copy never seems to work out neatly.
info in order is
Bach NO, Reportng marks Road no date introduced and description.
81304   Southern   762   1994   ~ Loco   2-4-2T, Lynton & Barnstable   P
81198   ETL Co   5   1996   ~ Loco   Shay, 2 truck, Ely Thomas   P
81199   None   None   1996   ~ Loco   Shay, 2 truck, unlettered, early   P
11396   ETL Co   1   1998   ~ Loco   0-4-0, Ely Thomas Lumber Co.   P
11398   ETL Co   21   1998   ~ Loco   0-4-0, painted unlettered Black   P
11397   WLC Co   11   1998   ~ Loco   0-4-0, West Side Lumber Co.   P
81196   P&CL Co   11   1998   ~ Loco   Shay, 2 truck, Pardee & Curtin   P   1
81197   None   None   1998   ~ Loco   Shay, 2 truck, unlettered, modern   P   1
81177   Climax   2   2000   ~ Loco   Climax Demo tapered stack   P   1
81184   ETL Co   7   2000   ~ Loco   Climax, 2 truck, Ely Thomas diamond stack   
81178   LRL Co   2   2000   ~ Loco   Climax, 2 truck, Little River Logging Co.   P   1
81179   MML Co   4   2000   ~ Loco   Climax, 2 truck, Meadow Mt. Lumber      1
81182   MCL Co   4   2000   ~ Loco   Climax, 2 truck, Michigan, California      1
81183   NRL Co   4   2000   ~ Loco   Climax, 2 truck, New River Lumber   P   1
81180   P&CL Co   6   2000   ~ Loco   Climax, 2 truck, Pardee & Curtin   P   1
81185   None   None   2000   ~ Loco   Climax, 2 truck, unlettered, diamond struck      1
81181   None   None   2000   ~ Loco   Climax, 2 truck, unlettered, tapered struck   p   1
81491   KC   102   2001   ~ Loco   2-6-0, Kansas Central
81492   None   None   2001   ~ Loco   2-6-0, painted unlettered black
81493   SPC   12   2001   ~ Loco   2-6-0, South Pacific Coast
81494   ET&WNC   2   2001   ~ Loco   2-6-0, ET&WNC
81495   BLW   None   2000   ~ Loco   2-6-0, Baldwin Locomotive Works "Delaware"
81496   YPLCo   11   2000   ~ Loco   2-6-0, Yellow Pine Lumber Co
81497   RGS   11   2000   ~ Loco   2-6-0, Rio Grande Southern
81498   D&RG   29   2000   ~ Loco   2-6-0, Denver & Rio Grande
81499   None   None   2000   ~ Loco   2-6-0, painted, unlettered Russian Iron
81295   DC   5   2001   ~ Loco   2-8-0, Deadwood Central   P   
81298   None   None   2001   ~ Loco   2-8-0, Painted Unlettered  Black   P   
81299   None   None   2001   ~ Loco   2-8-0, Painted Unlettered Black, red & white    P   
81297   SN   34   2001   ~ Loco   2-8-0, Silverton Northern   P   
81296   WP&Y   7   2001   ~ Loco   2-8-0, White Pass & Yukon   P   
81294   YPL Co   21   2001   ~ Loco   2-8-0, Yellow Pine Lumber Co.   P   
81395   B&L   6   2001   ~ Loco   4-4-0, Baltimore & Lehigh Straight stack   P   1
81396   E&P   4   2001   ~ Loco   4-4-0, Eureka & Palisade "Eureka"   P   1
81394   None   None   2001   ~ Loco   4-4-0, painted unlettered black Straight Stack   P   1
81795   LRL Co   5   2003   ~ Loco   Heisler, Little River Logging Co.   P   1
81797   LS Co   None   2003   ~ Loco   Heisler, Lukens Steel Co.   P   1
81794   OL Co   102   2003   ~ Loco   Heisler, Oregon Lumber Co.   P   1
81799   None   None   2003   ~ Loco   Heisler, painted, unlettered   P   1
81798   None   None   2003   ~ Loco   Heisler, painted, unlettered red white trim   P   1
81796   PCL Co   8   2003   ~ Loco   Heisler, Pardee Curtin Lumber Co.   P   1
82197   ETL Co   6   2004   ~ Loco   Shay, 38 ton, Ely-Thomas Lumber Co.   P      L
82196   OL Co   106   2004   ~ Loco   Shay, 38 ton, Oregon Lumber Co.   P      L
82198   None   None   2004   ~ Loco   Shay, 38 ton, unletter coal & oil bunker r&w   P      L
82199   None   None   2004   ~ Loco   Shay, 38 ton, unletter. coal & oil bunker black   P      L
82195   WMRL    7   2004   ~ Loco   Shay, 38 ton, W.M.Ritter Lumber Company   P      L
82194   WLC Co   5   2004   ~ Loco   Shay, 38 ton, West Side Lumber Co.   P      L
82596   CMC   1   2006   ~ Loco   0-4-0 Side Tank Porter Colorado Mining Co   N
82597   MQ&M   1   2006   ~ Loco   0-4-0 Side Tank Porter, Midwest Quarry & Mining    N
82598   None   N/A   2006   ~ Loco   0-4-0 Side Tank Porter, Painted, Unlettered, Black   N
82599   None   N/A   2006   ~ Loco   0-4-0 Side Tank Porter, Painted, Unlettered, Black   N
82697   LRL Co   2147   2006   ~ Loco   3 Truck Shay, Little River Lumber Co   
82496   MRL Co   7   2006   ~ Loco   3 Truck Shay, Meadow River Lumber Co.   N
82494   OL Co   110   2006   ~ Loco   3 Truck Shay, Oregon Lumber Co.   N
82699   None   None   2006   ~ Loco   3 Truck Shay, Painted Unlettered red & white trim
82499   none   N/A   2006   ~ Loco   3 Truck Shay, Painted, Unlettered, Black   N
82498   none   N/A   2006   ~ Loco   3 Truck Shay, Painted, Unlettered, Red white trim   N
82698   WSL Co   4   2006   ~ Loco   3 Truck Shay, Westside Lumber Co.    
81391   None   None   2007   ~ Loco   4-4-0, painted unlettered Lake (blue)& Russia Iron      1     
81392   None   None   2007   ~ Loco   4-4-0, painted unlettered Olive & Russia Iron      1       
81393   None   None   2007   ~ Loco   4-4-0,  Resort at Squaw Creek, Lake Tahoe Ca             Limited Edition       
81394   None   None   2001   ~ Loco   4-4-0, painted unlettered black Straight Stack   P   1    Dia stack in 2007
81395   B&L   6   2001   ~ Loco   4-4-0, Baltimore & Lehigh Straight stack   P   1     
81396   E&P   4   2001   ~ Loco   4-4-0, Eureka & Palisade "Eureka"   P   1      Spectrum   
81397   SPC   3   2000   ~ Loco   4-4-0, South Pacific Coast   P   1          $799.00   
81398    D&RG   87   2000   ~ Loco   4-4-0, Denver & Rio Grande       1      "Rito Alto"   $799.00    Diamond Stack
81399  None   None   2000   ~ Loco   4-4-0, painted, unlettered Russia Iron   P   1   
83095   D&RGW   463   2007   ~ Loco   K-27 2-8-2 "Flying Rio Grande" Black        1   
83096   RGS   455   2007   ~ Loco   K-27 2-8-2 "Rio Grande Southern" Black        1   
83094   D&RGW   464   2007   ~ Loco   K-27 2-8-2 "Rio Grande" Black        1   
83093   D&RGW   453   2007   ~ Loco   K-27 2-8-2 "Rio Grande" Black with doghouse   p   1   
83097   RGS   455   2007   ~ Loco   K-27 2-8-2 blk w/green boiler jacket        1   
83098   none   NA   2007   ~ Loco   K-27 2-8-2 Blk w/green boiler, unlettered      1   
83099   none   NA   2007   ~ Loco   K-27 2-8-2 painted black, unlettered      1   
82894   LRL Co   10   2009   ~ Loco   Baldwin 2-6-6-2  Little River Logging Co.      1   
82896   OL Co   121   2009   ~ Loco   Baldwin 2-6-6-2  Oregon Lumber Co      1   
82898   None   None   2009   ~ Loco   Baldwin 2-6-6-2  Painted Unlettered Black      1   
82899   None   None   2009   ~ Loco   Baldwin 2-6-6-2 Painted unlettered Blk Red windo    1   
82897   WVP&P    18   2009   ~ Loco   Baldwin 2-6-6-2 West Virginia Paper & Pulp Co.    1   
82895   YPL Co   36   2009   ~ Loco   Baldwin 2-6-6-2 Yellow Pine Lumber Co.      1   
80998   None    None   2010   ~ Loco   1:20.3 2-4-4 Forney Painted Unlettered Black      1   
80999   None    None   2010   ~ Loco   1:20.3 2-4-4 Forney Painted Unlettered Black      1   
80996   SR&RL   12   2010   ~ Loco   1:20.3 2-4-4 Forney Sandy River & Rangeley Lak   1   
80997   SR&RL   11   2010   ~ Loco   1:20.3 2-4-4 Forney Sandy river & Rangeley Lake   1   
85096   BLCo   3   2011   ~ Loco   1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Bayside Lumber Co      1   
86096   BLCo   4   2011   ~ Loco   1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Bayside Lumber Co      1   
85093   CLLCo   6   2011   ~ Loco   1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Clear Lake Lumber Co      1   
86093   CLLCo   7   2011   ~ Loco   1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Clear Lake Lumber Co      1   
85095   Climax   2   2011   ~ Loco   1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Climax       1   
86095   Climax   3   2011   ~ Loco   1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Climax       1   
85094   ERC&Lco   3   2011   ~ Loco   1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Elk River Coal & Lumber       1   
86094   ERC&Lco   4   2011   ~ Loco   1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Elk River Coal & Lumber       1   
85097   None   None   2011   ~ Loco   1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Unlettred black white strip      1   
85098   None   None   2011   ~ Loco   1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Unlettred white stripe red      1   
86097   None   None   2011   ~ Loco   1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Unlettred black white strip      1   
86098    None   None   2011   ~ Loco   1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Unlettred white stripe red         
82394    None   None   2005   ~ Loco/RT   1:20.3 Rail Truck  Red & Black
82396   None   None   2005   ~ Loco/RT   1:20.3 Rail Truck Black
82398   None   None   2005   ~ Loco/RT   1:20.3 Rail Truck Green & Black
82399   RGS   1   2005   ~ Loco/RT   1:20.3 Rail Truck Rio Grande Southern
82395    None   None   2005   ~ Loco/RT   1:20.3 Rail Truck Silver & Black
82397    None   None   2005   ~ Loco/RT   1:20.3 Rail Truck Yellow & Black
83194    DRGW   345   2013   ~Loco   C-19 Flying  Rio Grande Blk short tender
83195    DRGW   345   2013   ~Loco   C-19 Bumble bee short tender
83196    DRGW   346   2013   ~Loco   C-19 Royal Gorge Herald long tender
83197   RGS   40   2013   ~Loco   C-19 RGS Sunrise herald long tender
83198   None   None   2013   ~Loco   C-19 Unlettered Black short tender
83199   None   None   2013   ~Loco   C-19 Unlettered Black long tender R&W trim

Enjoy and feel free to ask questions, I will do my best to answer.

Bill

edit to add C-19
edit to add 2-6-0's & 4-4-0's which did not get included.
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2014, 09:48:06 PM »

Thanks Bill.  Very interesting reading.
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2014, 02:15:56 PM »

Yes, that certainly is a good deal of work!!  Is there any idea when each was no longer include the catalog?? I am almost positive the outside 2-8-0 (Connie) is not list and no longer advertised in mags, etc.
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2014, 02:37:55 PM »

Bill

Great list

The only items that I think are missing are the C-19s.

Stan
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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2014, 10:03:42 AM »

Thanks Stan,

Sure did miss them!!

Here they are:

83194   DRGW   345   2013   ~Loco   C-19 Flying  Rio Grande Blk short tender
83195   DRGW   345   2013   ~Loco   C-19 Bumble bee short tender
83196   DRGW   346   2013   ~Loco   C-19 Royal Gorge Herald long tender
83197   RGS   40         2013   ~Loco   C-19 RGS Sunrise herald long tender
83198   None   None    2013   ~Loco   C-19 Unlettered Black short tender
83199   None   None    2013   ~Loco   C-19 Unlettered Black long tender R&W trim
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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2014, 10:15:40 AM »

Bob, I do have all the catalog info but in a reference file database which is impossible to list with the above list.

I can usually answer questions about individual locomotives so this is for you.

As for the Connie they appeared in the catalog first in 2002, but as time went on they started disappearing as follows:
81298 &81299 were in the catalog until 2007
81295, 96, & 97 until 2009
81294 was the last one to appear and made it into the 2010 catalog.

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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2014, 08:35:00 PM »

Bill, a couple of questions.

I have a Climax, my records indicate that the Bachmann Number is 81181.  Further down the list you have the following listings:

85093   CLLCo   6   2011   ~ Loco   1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Clear Lake Lumber Co      1  
86093   CLLCo   7   2011   ~ Loco   1:20.3 Climax 2 Trk Clear Lake Lumber Co      1  

The Clear Lake Lumber Co is the name of my railroad and my Climax and Shay are so lettered, courtesy of Stan Cedarleaf.  Did Bachmann do a CLLCo Climax or is this from the pictures I posted on MLS?

If it is an 81181, is it a first or second generation?

I also have a 38 ton Shay Bachmann number 82198.  Any clue at to it's generation.

I'm curious as to the potential problems that I might have to be worried about.

Thanks,

Chuck

A couple of pictures.





PS Both of these were undecorated when I bought them.


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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2014, 09:10:13 AM »

Chuck,
If you look at the database you can see the dates of introduction.
Your old version climax 81181 was introduced in 2000.
Your Shay is the 2004 model

Bachmann did do the two locos you mention factory lettered for the Clear Lake Lumber Company. 

The factory lettering is different that the lettering Stan did for you.

There was a real Clear Lake Lumber Company in Western Washington State:

Here is a link:
http://www.steammachine.com/slugsmasher/clearlake/clearlake_info.htm

I suspect this is where Bachmann came up with the name, maybe the Bach-man could confirm this.

Bill
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2014, 11:35:51 AM »

Well thank you!   Appreciated the reply.
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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2014, 01:19:14 PM »

http://digitalcollections.lib.washington.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/clarkkinsey/id/238

Great photo of the Clear Lake Climax #6

Stan
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2014, 03:13:35 PM »

Thanks Bill!

Yes I saw the 81181 in your table.  I guess that the second generation started in 2011.

I had never heard of the CLLCo in Washington.  I guess that there is a prototype for everything.

Chuck
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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2014, 08:01:15 AM »

Stan,

Thanks for the great link to the University of Washington site. 

Bill
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