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Author Topic: gorre & daphetid layout for ez track.  (Read 11207 times)
jward


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« on: March 16, 2016, 12:34:43 PM »

as was mentioned in a previous thread it is possible to do this in a little larger than a 4x8 area. the images below show how it is done in scarm. minimum radius is 18r, all switches are #5. there are two areas on the plan where I used flex track, because of slight mismatches when sectional track was used. in real life, the track is more forgiving of these discrepancies than it is on a computer, so it would be possible to build this plan using only standard ez track components.







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Jeffery S Ward Sr
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2016, 02:36:46 PM »

I'm curious as to what the cost of the layout in EZ Track would be. Do you have a part number/quantity breakdown of the layout? Can Scarm do material lists?

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jward


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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2016, 02:50:33 PM »

yes scarm can do parts lists but I can't export them in a usable format. here is what I have as a parts list:

 2  44371 36" flex track
24 44501 18r 30 degree curve
 8 44503 22r 22.5 degree curve
 2 44509 33.25r 12 degree curve
19 44511 9" straight
 2 44513 2.25" straight
 6 44514 4.5" straight
 3 44519 26r 18 degree curve
 6 44531 18r 15 degree curve
 4 44565 #5 left switch
 2 44566 #5 right switch
 1 44592-3 1.25" straight
 2 44592-4  1.5" straight



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Jeffery S Ward Sr
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2016, 04:53:11 PM »

Pieces Item #   Description        $ per peice   Total
2   44371   36" flex track                 7.960   15.92
24    44501   18r 30 degree curve      4.000   96.00
8   44503    22r 22.5 degree curve    5.250   42.00
2   44509   33.25r 12 degree curve   5.000   10.00
19   44511    9" straight                   4.000   76.00
2   44513    2.25" straight                2.875    5.75
6   44514   4.5" straight                   3.250   19.50
3   44519   26r 18 degree curve        5.500   16.50
6   44531   18r 15 degree curve        3.000   18.00
4   44565    #5 left switch                52.000   208.00
2   44566   #5 right switch               52.000   104.00
1   44592-3    1.25" straight               1.500    1.50
2   44592-4     1.5" straight                1.500   3.00
                                                       
                                                                     Total:  $ 616.17 MSRP
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2016, 01:01:25 PM »

it should also be noted that the grades on the mainline loops are 3% max, while the branch line is 4%.
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Jeffery S Ward Sr
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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2016, 04:13:47 PM »

Looks great......

I have purchased some ez track and have been running some old equipment on it

Just a basic oval for now  but now that I have seen this I think I will actually give it the ole college try.

But as I stated in the original post I'm still negotiating the right of way from the Mrs.

Thanks,

Andy
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jward


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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2016, 06:50:16 PM »

the table is drawn as 4 1/2 feet by 8 feet, but it can be as little as 4x8, personally I would build a 4x8 table, then add an 8 foot 1x4 along the edge of the table to widen it a couple of inches.
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2016, 12:05:07 PM »

Thanks   Much appreciated
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2016, 02:44:48 PM »

the table is drawn as 4 1/2 feet by 8 feet, but it can be as little as 4x8, personally I would build a 4x8 table, then add an 8 foot 1x4 along the edge of the table to widen it a couple of inches.



Much as I'm one of the "Not a fan" crowd when it come to the 4 x 8 you can buy 5 x 8 sheets of plywood if you want more width.


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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2016, 04:23:56 PM »

Yes, you can buy 5' wide plywood.
Just remember, you have to have long arms to reach into the middle.
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2016, 04:53:19 PM »

Back when they were easy to find, O-Gaugers used to use 4-1/2' x 5' "Ping Pong Table" sheets to make 5x9 tables. But these days they've pretty much disappeared, and Ping Pong tables are usually masonite. You could cut down a couple of 5' x 5' sheets if you really wanted a 5x9 table. But, when you include aisles, for the space it would take, you'd do better with an 'around the room' type layout.

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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2016, 09:38:21 PM »

...you can buy 5 x 8 sheets of plywood if you want more width.

Cheers

Roger T.

I know you don't care, but where can you in the U.S.?  HD and Lowe's don't carry it, hardware stores will only special order it for an exorbitant cost.  And please, no one tell me "Menards" as they are only found in the middle of the country (U.S.).

This subject came up several years ago and as I recall, "go get a ping pong table" or "go to Menards" were the only 2 answers, so it is not so easy... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2016, 11:08:13 PM »

...you can buy 5 x 8 sheets of plywood if you want more width.

Cheers

Roger T.

I know you don't care, but where can you in the U.S.?  HD and Lowe's don't carry it, hardware stores will only special order it for an exorbitant cost.  And please, no one tell me "Menards" as they are only found in the middle of the country (U.S.).



Sorry I can't help you other then to suggest going to a lumber yard that tends to cater more to the construction industry than the home DIY stores like the ones you mention.

I've tried Google and it is hard to find these days.  Maybe it's been discontinued?


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Roger T.
 
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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2016, 06:33:44 AM »

it is hard to find these days

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Roger T.

I thank you for underscoring my point. Wink

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jward


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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2016, 07:14:37 AM »

...you can buy 5 x 8 sheets of plywood if you want more width.

Cheers

Roger T.

I know you don't care, but where can you in the U.S.?  HD and Lowe's don't carry it, hardware stores will only special order it for an exorbitant cost.  And please, no one tell me "Menards" as they are only found in the middle of the country (U.S.).

This subject came up several years ago and as I recall, "go get a ping pong table" or "go to Menards" were the only 2 answers, so it is not so easy... Roll Eyes

which is why I suggested adding a length of 1x4 to the original 4x8 table. this plan will fit, just barely, on a 4x8 but adding a few extra inches to the front side will keep the track away from the edge. you really don't need to go 5 foot here.

that said, I have never come across anything but 4x8 sheets, or smaller cut down 4x4 or 4x2 sheets where I live. it was mentioned that ping pong tables are now Masonite, which is completely unsuitable for a baseboard for a model train layout, and much better suited for backdrops.

the way I would construct this layout makes the whole "what size plywood shoulo=d I look for" question a moot point. I piece my subroadbed together from 1x4 pine, it is a lot of cutting and fitting of pieces, but it is strong enough to walk on, and easier to spike to than plywood.
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