Hi guys!

Interesting conversation. I looked closely at it again a few more times. I think this is a South Pacific Coast (81095) chassis based on the paint scheme and valve gear design. And it is clearly the V7 tender and it appears to be the boiler shell from the NP&S from the V7 production.  Nothing about this makes much sense, unless somehow the original drive somehow was damaged or scavenged and this one added. The guy did offer a lower price to me as well but I was more curious than interested in buying.

Yeah, I would stay away... it would be interesting to know how the chassis was integrated, specifically chuff circuitry, and I believe there is still a flicker board.

I'd stay away.

Just because I'm curious, I messaged the seller and asked for pics of the cab and tender. He obligingly sent pics of the underside of loco and tender.

(I'll attach the other pic in my next post. Edit: it let me put 1310MB in the attachments so here's both.)

From Bill's sticky of the chassis ID, that's a Gen-5 regular Annie chassis - slotted front truck mount, Stephenson's valve gear. Yet the loco has all the PNP460 gen-7 features of dual electrical plugs, looks like it has a firebox glow window behind the opening door?

He's offering 11% off, or $370. It's still at 'make me an offer' so he'll probably accept less?

I'm just curious as to what happened?! The tender wheels show wear, the annie wheels do not. It even shows the new drawbar style. I guess it is just odd to me because this new version big hauler is seemingly superior in every way to all previous big haulers. It's like they took the original battery big hauler drive mechanism and put it under an annie (which wouldn't work anyway). In a way, I kinda feel bad for the selller because it is such a weird thing he's trying to sell. If it was maybe $50, I would think more seriously about buying it.

On the flip side, this makes me more confident in a future anniversary big hauler purchase! Love the drawbar arrangement and large connectors!

again my theory: new chassis swapped into a V7... perhaps ran originally and damaged the v7 chassis... or did not want it any more but wanted the chassis... since the seller seems to NOT be the person who did the swap, we'll probably never know the "back story"

Well, someone bought it.
Maybe it's a member of our little board?
If it was one of you guys, please respond with details after you receive the loco.
Thanks!
Mike

Mike if you bought it please post all you can about it when you get it. You can also PM me if you prefer. I want to see if there was some kind of intermediate chassis just before the V7.  The plugs, firebox door, seem to be v7, but the front truck seems to be earlier, and if it is a v7 it would be the first with Stephenson valve gear.

Bill

Clearly a modified (seemingly well done) of a V7 loco shell with a V5 frame/chassis especially with the wiring. Should be noted that seller also has a 4-6-0 modified to a Camelback. Appears as the original owner was into "extreme" modifications. Why? Only he/she knows. I will say that the workmanship looks pretty good. One thing, I have never seen V7 chassis on Bachmann parts store, so maybe chassis was broken and original owner wanted new chassis from Bman parts so settled for V5 and adapted wiring.

Hi.
No, I didn't buy it, Bill.
I was tempted, but in the end, I decided not to get it.
I have a couple of projects in the works, and I already have a Christmas train(North Star Express Anniversary Edition).
I did like it,even with the mods!
Mike

Quote from: RailMan63 on October 28, 2025, 09:06:19 PMMaybe it's a member of our little board?

T'was me. I couldn't resist. He took a much reduced price, so when I finish opening it up and taking pictures for you guys, I can hopefully sell it before Christmas for what I paid. 

Well Pete it would be you!  I will look forward to your photos and opinion as to what it really is. If is stock I will have to change my info related to identifying it.  Bill

Just saw this on Ebay https://www.ebay.com/p/25053570820  it is a V7 91805 1225 with Walshearts Valve gear and looks exactly like the photos in the catalog. 

 The the link shows the V5 1225 Loco from the Wonderland Flyer set.  It would be easy for even an experienced G Scaler to think it is also the V7.

Cheers and Beers,  Bill


 https://www.ebay.com/itm/267454609227?_skw=Bachmann%20%20g%20scale%20christms%20locomotive&itmmeta=01K8ZQSWRSH9TXARD7G2AVH7G4&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA4FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1eDlw4xsYyeiyLvlCJD%2BYF9Q4mwlkvxJkTCqer9GEdB2I9e1ZVN5hp0V5ofyKRdehIIzfZWDE2ECPGauBCMor8HGh5lX%2BmbcSld0F4fXE7E%2FY6w%2ByPsCqraKh02cLePx5IS8tjJFoHGHzqaia0ZGwHGp3Oi58q1%2FfnWAw1xDDd%2FXuaSf%2FtYyOJ1VEDMTIr3mr%2BhJ37Onf556CCfxLro7qtHnpd%2BKP9SW37YH8vX%2FIMcc%2BrSEgutvKxy6atIh5%2BB4KJevfoDArbfZOl9HANBtPwm%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-DN5_fHZg 

Quote from: Loco Bill Canelos on November 01, 2025, 09:07:55 AMV5 1225 Loco from the Wonderland Flyer set.  It would be easy for even an experienced G Scaler to think it is also the V7.

And he's selling the tender separately? Weird.

Unfortunately, that's a very common practice on Ebay.
Sellers think that they can make more money by selling the loco and tender separately.
And this is exactly what that seller is doing.
Grrr!
Well, at least he's not trying to pass it off as a V7...

Take a close look at the picture of the back of the loco... it has the two 2-pin plugs of the original units... that part is definitely not V7...

says he cannot get sound to work... of course the speaker is in the tender which is nowhere to be seen... ha ha....

interesting mess